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Here we go again. He can be said to have fobbed off survivors when the ones who were complaining about him and his actions received a shit sandwich which gaslighted then into thinking they were in the minority and were under the influence of others.
What a complete joke.
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I do feel sorry for Dijana. Even though she is somewhat complicit in him being able to continue acting as he is. I don't know how much of that is her having been manipulated, and how much is self-preservation/getting what she can out of the situation?
Somewhat? I’d say she is complicit. One common theme among the begging video commenters was how they would donate if they could but couldn’t afford it. And then they saw the response and decided to join as Patrons anyway. If people are saying they can’t afford even the lowest tiers it tells you they are living paycheque to paycheque.
A single mother somewhere is giving Lloyd Evans money, and his wife is getting her hair done or having her latest tattoo inked, courtesy of the same pool of funds.
After all, Lloyd was clear about needing to pay Dijana her “wages”.
I sincerely doubt she needed to be manipulated. As Lloyd said on that abusive letter:
You have known for years that I am a workaholic and we have talked about it openly, yet you have persisted with our relationship and been quite happy to reap the dividends of my uneven work-life balance financially.
Take whatever Lloyd says with a grain of salt, but the last sentence indicates that she enjoys the benefits of his grift. I have no reason to dispute that. Even last year on his birthday trip she was posing in the background for the pic he was about to tweet, with both parties knowing quite well that their relationship was under public scrutiny after what he said in the livestream and about them being separated. However passive, that was tacit support for the continued grift off of vulnerable ex-cult members.
I don’t doubt it in the least that she has gotten some sort of lump sum or increase in pay from this latest bump.
She does not belong anywhere in the conversation about Lloyd and him being compromised by his actions in Thailand, but if you want to talk about the grift, she is right in the middle of it, enjoying her lifestyle at the expense of single mothers and 50-something exJW janitors.
My sympathy for that woman has been exhausted. Like her husband, she needs to get a real job like all the other single mothers they are funding off of do.
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New and evidently lengthy video about Jabba the Hutt upcoming and I’m not talking about a Star Wars prequel.
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Kit Kat posted that link for a reason: Hardly anyone was watching and Lloyd was struggling to come up with anything to talk about. Lloyd even admitted this in the end when he said he was panicking because only 11 people were viewing. If you need another reason why he routinely skips these Patrons only livestreams, it’s because no one shows.
Kit Kat was responsible for probably 80% of the comments and was desperate to keep him engaged. Lloyd was quite familiar with Kit Kat and it’s obvious she is one of the few constants if not the only one on his livestreams. Only 8 people bothered to make comments and 2 of those were just to say goodbye.
Most of the conversation was about the Governing Body and it was clear that he enjoys this subject immensely. In particular he loved talking about the personalities of the GB members, their helpers and their manners of speaking.
Kit Kat made sure he was fed these GB questions and he went on several tangents. He would have been absolutely floundering otherwise.
His support may look like it’s a kilometre wide, but it’s mere centimetres deep. He’s in trouble when dolts like Kit Kat are the only things keeping his livestreams going.
I think a lot of these new pledges are going to these things and finding they are nothing special and consist of Lloyd talking about anything, even possible artwork on his wall just to make it seem like there’s a social club aspect to it.
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1) Over the years he has changed his view: Used to think it would be possible to see the JW org face a catastrophe, either from falling numbers or going bankrupt. Now he believes the JWs "can weather almost any storm".
Hell’s Bells, I told him virtually the same fucking thing ten years ago on this very forum only to be called a WT apologist. That was his big thing back then, he claimed that since 2005 WT had reached a point of no return and would crumble.
2005 is Lloyd’s 1914, and now he’s changed the generations doctrine to an overlapping and continuous one. Keep donating people, his work will forever be needed to fight the bad guys!
Someone finally realised he’s not getting out of this exJW genre due to lack of interest, and is now conditioning his followers to support him and his bullshit until the grave.
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What is it that you are talking about please?
Jabba the Hutt has a huge credibility and reputation problem and though he was able to partially regain some of his financial support, he’s not able to back it up by producing top notch content as he was able to before.
There was the Norway case which was huge and Jan Nilsen was the one who provided testimony to the government. Nilsen has condemned Lloyd for both his Thailand adventures and his grift. So it was a non-starter that Lloyd would be getting any inside scoop or cooperation from the man at the centre of it. Jason Wynne of AvoidJW was the one reporting on that case, and they have a history. Wynne has also made a public statement that he will not have anything to do with Lloyd Evans.
Wynne was also involved in the BBC documentary. Lloyd would have easily been the go-to guy on this before but the entire game has changed and he’s sulking about not getting in like he used to. He also knows this is why his patrons keep falling because his content has limited value because he’s blocked from many of these media appearances and he won’t promote any stories that perceived enemies of his are involved in.
So he said nothing, even though both those are huge stories and bigger than any convention video he could make. He’s blocking out information to his new batch of recruits that could lead them to making contacts with or following other sources in the community that are not favourable to him.
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In case you were wondering if Lloyd’s “life saving work” would encompass a simple comment on the Rebekah Vardy BBC interview about her abuse within the JWs, the answer is an unequivocal no. Hint: Jason Wynne of avoidJW who has condemned Lloyd was also interviewed for this special.
He’s getting clobbered in his mentions, and he’s handling it in a way only Lloyd could.
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Looks like clickbait but I’d be curious if he mentions directly or indirectly his financial future, possible retirement, or the volatility of his current donation system. My guess is he takes yet another shot at exJWs who do not support him and continue to be critical.
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So why has he sold off the BMW?
We don’t know whether or not he has replaced it with a newer and better vehicle. He left it open for speculation and perhaps this was deliberate.
I think we’re getting closer to the reason why he pulled 2 public begging stunts in such short order. As a bachelor living the night life, his priorities have changed. He no longer needs or wants the beach home in Istria, but a nice car would fit his shorter term priorities better.
By priorities I mean not having to pay for sex anymore.
He still needs a car to pick up his children from where they live and to go on his trips to the coast and into Northern Europe.
Perhaps he has done what all middle aged men with a micro-penis do in a mid-life crisis:
He bought a Corvette. Or whatever the European equivalent of that is.
I think it’s just in his nature to make sure he gets the advantage in every situation
Absolutely. I remember him whining about all the work he supposedly put into his book and how imperative it was that he got the most Amazon would let him get which was $29 a copy. When they discounted it, he was more than a bit sore. And we were only talking like a $5 difference. The way he spoke to the Spanish translator who supposedly had a PDF, it was like this guy in Hermosillo was taking food out of his children’s mouths.
I really wonder what he pays Tibor. It can’t be much, and he probably resents the little he does pay.
His business is in Croatia, but he runs it like a UK/European operation. At least with the expenses and what he pays himself. When it comes to Tibor and quite possibly Dijana, he butters his bread on the other side, waxing on about what makes up a competitive wage in Croatia.
That’s probably what he’s getting. Barely, if that.
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Was that the same BMW that some rich ex-JW contributor basically GAVE him?
Yes.. I noticed how he seemed to be concerned about how much he was going to sell it for even though it was gifted to him. Like WT with selling KHs that were built off of donations, he profits by liquidating goods that were gifted to him out of a perceived need of his. Here’s a pic of the car from the “10 Years: A Tribute From The Friends Of Lloyd” video.
